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Jungle Explorer Outfit, Pact Fleet Weapons, and Regional Tournament Finishers in the Gem Store!

6:18 pm, November 18, 2014 The Silverwastes may be a tangle, but with our new Jungle Explorer Outfit and Pact Fleet Weapons, the Black Lion Trading Company has everything you need to clear a path in style! And let&#8217 [..] View

The ESL Go4GuildWars2 Cups Are Heating Up

6:18 pm, November 14, 2014 If I had to sum up November’s ESL Go4GuildWars2 Cups in a few words, I’d describe it as entirely unexpected. The November Cup isn’t even half over, and yet we’v [..] View

Talking Backpack, Mini Belinda, and New Guild Flag Finisher in the Gem Store!

6:18 pm, November 4, 2014 The Mad King is at rest again – until next year. Here at the Black Lion Trading Company, we have everything you need to get back out to adventuring. A new finisher that makes a bold stat [..] View

Adopt-a-Dev was a Blast

6:18 am, November 1, 2014 Hello Tyrians, A few weeks ago, some of us on the WvW team were chatting about how we can better connect with the community, and we came up with the idea of joining different guilds in different leag [..] View

How Each World Fared in the WvW Fall Tournament

6:18 am, November 1, 2014 We have a lot of talented people in the Guild Wars 2 community. One of our community members has created a series of fantastic infographics that show you, at-a-glance, how your World performed in th [..] View

Ready Up 23: Updates on balance, Skyhammer, the World Tournament Series, and the WvW Fall Tournament

7:18 pm, October 25, 2014 Come join us for the live broadcast of Ready Up on Friday, October 17, as we discuss a variety of competitive-related topics. First up, we’ll be previewing some profession balance changes yo [..] View

WvW Fall Tournament 2014: Congratulations, Winners!

7:18 pm, October 17, 2014 After four weeks of intense fighting, filled with hard-fought victories and heart-wrenching losses, the WvW Fall Tournament finally came to an end with six worlds claiming the right to call themselves [..] View

Tireless Harvesting Minions and Glowing Green Mask in the Gem Store!

7:18 pm, October 7, 2014 The air is getting chilly, leaves are beginning to fall, and theres a definite hint of spookiness around Tyria! The Halloween celebration may not be coming back until later this month, but I just [..] View

Tempest Weapons and World vs. World Support Pack in the GemStore!

7:18 pm, September 30, 2014 Whether youre looking for a little extra support in your World vs. World endeavors or trying to show off your fashion sensibilities with a new set of weapons, the Black Lion Trading Company is her [..] View

Reminder: Participate in the Overwolf World vs. World Streaming and War ReporterContests

7:18 pm, September 30, 2014 After our successful partnership on the Overwolf WvW App Challenge, which saw player Prefrontal Cortex win a $2,000 cash prize and a lot of Guild Wars 2 goodies, weve partnered with [..] View

World Tournament Series Finals Dated and Slated

7:18 am, September 27, 2014 The Guild Wars 2 World Tournament Series will name a champion this December in China! Its our first truly international tournament, bringing together top PvP teams from North America, Europe and Chin [..] View

Taimis Dye Kit and New Permanent Gathering Tools in the GemStore!

7:18 pm, September 23, 2014 From bright displays of color to incendiary gathering tools, this week the Black Lion Trading Company is all about setting yourself apart from the crowd. Read on to learn about our two new permane [..] View

Announcing the Overwolf World vs. World Fall Tournament Contests

7:18 am, September 16, 2014 Last month, we partnered with Overwolf to see who could develop the best app for World vs. World in the Overwolf WvW App Challenge. Some amazing apps were created as a result, and you can explore the [..] View

Ready Up: Episode 22

7:18 am, September 12, 2014 This week on Ready Up, host Josh Davis will be joined by Blackgate commander Kris Constantine to discuss World vs. World tactics, strategy and coordination ahead of the upcoming WvW Fall 2014 Tourna [..] View

Upcoming Events in GuildWars2

7:18 am, September 12, 2014 The World vs. World Fall Tournament 2014 begins tomorrow! Prepare to represent your world for four weeks of epic battles in the Mists. Read our announcement blog for more details about this tournament [..] View

Roundup: World vs. World Community Videos

7:18 pm, September 10, 2014 A few weeks ago, we launched a call to arms to the WvW community, asking them for the best video footage they created. We received an overwhelming response from the WvW players of Guild Wars& [..] View

What future do you want in GW2? A comprehensive poll...

7:18 pm, September 8, 2014 http://happycatproductions.polldaddy.com/s/what-future-do-you-want With the release of the feature pack tomorrow, Guild Wars 2 adds a number of features that many in the community are excited about. [..] View

On YouTube: Ready Up Episode 21

7:18 am, September 4, 2014 This week on Ready Up, join our Competitive Events Manager and host Josh Davis and Competitive QA Embed, Jessica Boettiger as they talk about the upcoming World vs World Fall Tournament and cover up [..] View

Ready Up: Episode 21

7:18 pm, August 28, 2014 This week on Ready Up, join our Competitive Events Manager and host Josh Davis and Competitive QA Embed, Jessica Boettiger as they talk about the upcoming World vs World Fall Tournament and cover upd [..] View

2nd Anniversary Predictions

7:18 pm, July 31, 2014 Within less than a month it will have been two years since GW2 released. What do you expect or would like ANet to do? Considering the patch tuesdays fall onto 12th and 26th, I assume we'll get the Dr [..] View

What can I do that's fun?

7:18 am, July 4, 2014 Okay so I have been playing Gw2 since it's start and I have a level 80 warrior, necro, guardian and engineer. Thing is, as of late the characters I have are a bit.. bleh.. I can't find any real fun [..] View

New Wizard Lightning Finisher and Water Fight Balloon Bucket in the GemStore!

7:18 pm, June 24, 2014 Youve got just one week left to revel in the Festival of the Four Winds, and the Black Lion Trading Company has everything you need to wring every last ounce of enjoyment from each day! Read on to [..] View

Additional Crafting License, Mystical Dragon Finisher, and More in the Gem Store!

7:18 am, June 4, 2014 Its a busy week here at the Black Lion Trading Company! From a license to allow you to learn an additional crafting profession on each character to an eye-catching new finisher and returning minia [..] View

Pay-to-win

3:16 am, April 3, 2014 A lot of the pay-to-win arguments Ive seen lately stink of what I call subjective advantage. It was summed up best in a recent thread I shall link at the end of this post. In a nut shell the purposed [..] View

Living Story season 2: Mordremoth Rising

8:16 pm, March 7, 2014 We extinguished the molten alliance, blew up the aetherblades, poisoned the toxic alliance, and finally ****** scarlet in what to me felt like five seconds. . . But that doesn't stop what's coming fro [..] View

Living Story Vs Personal Story

8:16 am, February 22, 2014 One of the most laziest thing I have EVER. I mean EVER saw. The patch itself to the city. Its awesome. It leaves you wanting more. But when you are doing the personal story for the first time or for t [..] View

Do you think comparing GW1 to GW2 makes sense?

2:16 pm, January 24, 2014 Why or why not? Before you instantly say "Yes" or "No" consider that they are two different games with two different mission statements, systems, and almost two different genres; [..] View

Wurm Minis and More in the Gem Store!

8:16 pm, January 21, 2014 The gigantic jungle wurm in Bloodtide Coast is really shaking things up, isnt it? Show off your dedication to the fight against this colossus with our new wurm-themed items! Read on to learn all a [..] View

Anyone else miss the trinity?

8:16 pm, December 19, 2013 Hi guys, It's been over 3-4 months since I took a break from GW2. Currently I'm debating on coming back, but I just don't think I have it in me. I have come to realize the main reason that I don't wa [..] View

Release Notes for A Very Merry Wintersday

2:16 am, December 11, 2013 Although the nights are long and dark, folks all over Tyria are in good cheer Wintersday has begun! Snowball fights, festive activities, and (best of all!) toys all help to keep joy alive through the [..] View

World vs. World: MidseasonReport

2:16 am, November 12, 2013 For the past three weeks, the first World vs. World season has been packed with intense battles for power and dominance. North American and European worlds have been divided up into three leagues apie [..] View

Tower of Nightmares Guide

2:16 am, November 5, 2013 A massive, deadly Tower has been revealed in Kessex Hills, built by the new Toxic Alliance of krait and Nightmare Courtiers! This guide will help you get started in the fight against this new threat. [..] View

Release Notes for TowerofNightmares

8:16 pm, October 29, 2013 Marjory Delaqua and Kasmeer Meade have found a way to pierce the veil protecting the krait in Kessex Hills! When the illusion falls, brave heroes need to be nearby to deal with the kraitand whatever i [..] View

The Family Business

9:16 pm, October 17, 2013 By the third night, the mob around Castle Thorn had grown so thick that their bonfires reached the river, making a constellation of pyres that stretched as far as King Oswald Thorn could see. &#8 [..] View

So, what's the next best thing?

11:21 am, October 16, 2013 I do wvw 90% of my gw2 time. Due to heavy workload IRL, I only have a few hours a day to myself, so, cannot realistically grind for Ascended pieces. But like many people here, it will always be a thor [..] View

Release Notes for Blood and Madness

9:16 pm, October 15, 2013 Edrick was a monster, he brought his family shame So the locked him in a box, mouth stuffed with candy corn But now the son has risen to take his fathers name Beware the Bloody Prince, the son of [..] View

GW2Guru May have Malware

10:19 pm, October 9, 2013 Sense the site thing requires approval (who knows how long that will take), I'm going to post this here. I'm not sure how truthful this may be, however Chrome just notified me that GW2Guru may have b [..] View

Additional Gear Tiers: Economic Inevitability

12:38 pm, October 9, 2013 Looking at market prices from launch until now of staple items we see a clear trend of decreasing price,  namely exotic armors and weapons.  This is partly because [..] View

A living story and world in a MMORPG: is it possible?

12:26 am, October 9, 2013 I have long had a soft spot for story telling in games. I unashamedly use cheats in single player games as I am more interested in seeing where the story goes than in the gameplay "challenges&quo [..] View

another new zone

5:03 pm, October 7, 2013 So they are adding another zone. kinda cool but probly will face same demise as lost shores. Also other fluff ;( Maybe its just me but instead of new zones How bout making current ones worthy. Heck th [..] View

Is the personal story too optional?

10:10 pm, October 6, 2013 The personal story ended up being one of those GW2 features that managed to massively reduce my enjoyment of the game. And it's not the story's writing, rewards or something similar - it's the way it' [..] View

[Long] reasons for uninstalling the game

10:53 am, October 6, 2013 So I've been playing for a few days now. I just uninstalled the game after playing four classes, leveling up to 20 on several of them, and trying out both WvW and structured PvP. The PvE game is mos [..] View

What do GW1 player think of GW2?

7:00 am, October 6, 2013 I'm curious to see what old Guild Wars 1 fans (before Nightfall was released) think of all these new changes to Guild Wars 2 Edits thanks to Wilarseny comments. View

Taproot! (aka "lol, Arena.net")

9:21 pm, October 5, 2013 Warning: this is a potential spoiler. This concerns a location at the Breach waypoint in Diessa Plateau  There is a skill point and vista in that area, and while this thread doesn't [..] View

Will I like Guild Wars 2?

3:08 am, October 5, 2013 Hi all, I'm a fan of traditional rpgs like morrowind, skyrim (don't like oblivion), gothic serial, risen, the witcher, baldurs gate, fallout, neverwinter nights, dragon age, kingdoms of amalur, etc. I [..] View

Mesmer Looking For Group

1:37 am, October 5, 2013 Hello, I am currently looking for a Guild/Team that is interested on a Hardcore Spvp'er I manly play a Mesmer but truly I have theory crafted on every profession. So I can change if needed. My only d [..] View

Store now too greedy for my taste.

10:29 pm, October 4, 2013 Don't get me wrong I've been a strong supporter of Anet since day one with the collectors edition. I bought 3 armors some civilian clothing. Since the harvest tools at 10 dollars each, character bound [..] View

Lol Savage leap bug

5:18 pm, October 4, 2013 Ok so I play a warrior,and the second skill on the sword was bugged today. Whenever I used to savage leap just to get around I would get ****** by falling damage unless I hit something. I saw a norn w [..] View

Seeing gw2's eSports globally

3:16 pm, October 4, 2013 Hey guys ! So I'd like to talk with you on the PvP of Guild Wars 2. But also on the gameplay in general, the design on general of Guild Wars 2, sPvP and Esports. (It will get more specific to GvGs an [..] View

I absolutely do not like this..Gear grind in GW

3:07 pm, October 4, 2013 QuoteIn November well unveil the first Ascended items. This new rarity type falls between Exotic and Legendary on the spectrum of rarity and has slightly higher stats than Exotics. Source: https://ww [..] View

What would've made the Personal Story better...

10:01 am, October 4, 2013 * Minor Spoiler Alers* Now I know everyone's disappointed about the personal story. Half the fault lies with Anet, for bad writing, cringe-worthy cinematics, clunky sequences and for rushing it all. [..] View

Why Samwell Loves GW2

2:16 am, October 4, 2013 I'm tired of seeing all of these threads about people crying over how 200 hours of content at launch isn't good enough. Here is my response to (for lack of a better term) cry babies. I'm not sure if i [..] View

Need help: I really **** as a player!

11:50 pm, October 3, 2013 I first picked this game up on the pre-order early access.  I have since made many characters (one of every class) and got three of them (Ranger, Elementalist and Mesmer) into mid-le [..] View

Anet on why there is vertical progression

8:05 pm, October 3, 2013 some of you may have the same question as a user lately: Quote How is slowly introducing more and more elements of CEVP respecting the player? I made an informed decision about this game based on the [..] View

Puzzles and Mini-Dungeons, do things need to change?

1:30 pm, October 3, 2013 I haven't done everything in the game by a long shot.  I have a level 38 Elementalist, a level 10 Guardian and a level 13 Engineer (well, and a level 1 Mesmer).  Bu [..] View

Why I'm probably quitting the game after only a few weeks

11:56 am, October 3, 2013 Just a quick background on myself. I consider myself the casual gamer that ArenaNet said would especially love this game (MMO Manifesto). I have a PS3. Ive played popular games like Skyrim and Assassi [..] View

Non-religious holiday discussion

8:25 am, October 3, 2013 Holidays - why does the game have some and not others? The fact is that holidays in the real world have national, religious, or cultural implications that aren't universal. Obviously, even the WORD & [..] View

VP - Reading Between the Lines

2:49 am, October 3, 2013 In this thread we will be discussing the most recent addition of vertical progression to GW2 with the Lost Shores update & what it really means for GW2.  This topic has a tendenc [..] View

Arathi Basin, Alliance Battles and GW2

11:22 pm, October 2, 2013 Little bit of context: for the past 8 years I've considered GW1's pre-Nightfall PvP to be the best PvP among MMOs, no contest. In particular I think GW1's Alliance Battles were the best casual hot-joi [..] View

New Phishing Mail

8:14 pm, October 2, 2013 Just a FYI Had an email that mentioned mounts and stuff like that. Using a non GW2 installed computer I went to the link (something about GW2 and gifts) It's a mock up of the GW2 main page, clearly [..] View

Short Story: The Trek of the Zephyrites

4:39 pm, October 2, 2013 Scribes Note: The following journal page was retrieved, undoubtedly without permission, from the Zephyr Sanctum, and in 1326 it came into the hands of the Durmand Priory. The author remains unidentifi [..] View

Armors in Guild Wars 2

2:38 pm, October 2, 2013 Thanks to everyone that gathered this info and posted it on the Internet. I simply was bookmarking what I find a long the way and I thought I compile them in one post here on GW2GURU. Armors that do [..] View

Anet did Dynamic Events in a really lame way

11:28 am, October 2, 2013 TL;DR, Dynamic events aren't dynamic because they don't depend on each other, and are basically public quest loops that respawn 5 minutes after completion. Also, this Forbes article sums up how I feel [..] View

Problems with FotM

11:25 am, October 2, 2013 I started running FotM last week and am having some issues.  I seem to be really, really bad at them and could use some tips.  I'm running them in PUGs. Worst one [..] View

I can't keep up

9:16 am, October 2, 2013 First of all, I love Guild Wars 2. I've been with the series since the beta of Guild Wars 1, which I also played way too much. It has some flaws, but overall I love it. What I don't like is somethi [..] View

Ingara's Keg Brawl Guide

6:50 am, October 2, 2013 After playing quite a few rounds of keg brawl and learning the secrets of the game I decided to share what I have learned. First are the buttons you can use when you don't have the keg. 1. A light pu [..] View

Guild Wars, NCSoft, ArenaNet and the future...

6:16 am, October 2, 2013 This is more intended for ArenaNet employees to read. I know they read these forums and I'm hoping they will see this, think about it, and maybe even respond to it. It is also open for discussion from [..] View

Guild Wars 2: From Excitement to Frustration

3:58 am, October 2, 2013 This will be a long post. There is a TL;DR at the bottom if you're not invested in reading a lot. ------- I am a hardcore MMO player, as I'm sure some of you are as well. I hold this title because I [..] View

So hard to get monthly achievment now

11:45 pm, October 1, 2013 At least the WvW aspect of it. I remember the first months of the game wvw was where it was at, I filled the wvw **** achivement in a week, now all 4 wvw areas are dominated by green not sure how to k [..] View

GW2 2012 Best (Worst) of Awards

11:20 pm, October 1, 2013 GW2 2012 Best (Worst) of Awards   Its that time of the year again! Where we look back into the previous year and project into the new year. To make the best of 2013, we have to look [..] View

Chinese hackers still a problem?

10:48 pm, October 1, 2013 OK, i havent played this game much in the past 2 months . Logged in a couple of evenings for some PVP. So im not update at all with news/anything. Ive played MMO games for many years starting out on [..] View

Orichalcum Nodes (Gate of Madness) @ 14/10/2012

9:38 pm, October 1, 2013 Dropping all the found nodes for this update. View

The future of NCSoft, ArenaNet, and Guild Wars 1 & 2.

9:31 pm, October 1, 2013 This is more intended for ArenaNet employees to read. I know they read these forums and I'm hoping they will see this, think about it, and maybe even respond to it. It is also open for discussion from [..] View

Attempting Pacifism

6:41 pm, October 1, 2013 So I have been inspired by Cracked.com It had an article that talked about the pacifist run done in World of Warcraft and I thought: "Well is that possible in Guild Wars 2?" ~~ Day 1 :: [..] View

Release Notes for June 11 Dragon Bash

5:55 pm, October 1, 2013 LIVING WORLDDragon Bash The Ship’s Council of Lion’s Arch is sponsoring Dragon Bash, a celebration of the Tyrian spirit and resolve to defeat the elder dragons. Bash on dragon pia [..] View

A Guide to Dragon Bash

5:10 pm, October 1, 2013 Hello, fellow Dragon Bashers! Want to know where to go and how to get started with the celebration? Read on! Spoiler-Free Mini Guide Spoiler-Free New Items and Rewards Spoiler-Free New Achievemen [..] View

Short Story: WhatScarletSaw

3:39 pm, October 1, 2013 Professor Omadd, Headmaster Emeritus of the College of Synergetics, anxiously twisted his ear as he waited for the sylvari woman to wake. She had been thrashing violently in the isolation module for d [..] View

Gear grind = lazy developers

1:00 pm, October 1, 2013 As the title says, gear grind is just a lazy way to get people to log on and grind some content for a while. That's what bothers me about this whole thing the most. Making content people want to play [..] View

A players thoughts or GW2 State of the Game

12:06 pm, October 1, 2013 Good Afternoon Fellow Tyrians! I sat down this morning was looking over the forums again and started writing.  This post may be a little disjointed and hop around a lot but I think [..] View

On Lottery (RNG) Boxes

11:25 am, October 1, 2013 Posted to GW2 Forums, I don't expect it to last.  Please comment there as well. TLDR: Points are boiled down here, but I encourage you to ready the body. The Right to Make Money N [..] View

Sky Pirates of Tyria Begins Today

10:30 am, October 1, 2013 A ****** at the Dragon Bash has thrown lions Arch into Chaos! The culprits responsible for the mayhem have holed up in their hideout. Inspector Ellen Kiel spearheaded the investigation into the ****** [..] View

The Official Soundtrack has arrived!

10:28 am, October 1, 2013 It has finally arrived! It comes with four disks and was signed by Jeremy Soule!  Mine got squished sometime during shipment cause some of the plastic case got shattered but the dis [..] View

Today's Patch Nerfed the Malchor's Leap Event Farms

10:24 am, October 1, 2013 https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/What-was-in-today-s-patch ArenaNet tried to play dumb at first, but the locals aren't happy. https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Why-not-jus [..] View

What would you change/add to Zhaitan's battle?

9:59 am, October 1, 2013 I (and many others) thought this particular boss battle was lacking something, like for example: a battle. Hop on ship, **** some trash and wait for mahlazor to fire, then pelt dragon with fireballs u [..] View

I am astonished GW2 is still alive, what keeps you guys playing?

8:33 am, October 1, 2013 I quit the game around level 50 several months ago because I just couldn't take it any more. This is a guy who played several F2P mmo's, including a korean mmo, and getting pretty far in it. What keep [..] View

GW2 doesn't feel like a true sequel to Guild Wars

5:56 am, October 1, 2013 I played guild wars since just before Factions, its the best online game ive ever played, been waiting for so long for GW2. Its not a bad game, its far better value for money than most games,&nbsp [..] View

The Emotion and Wonder of GW2 | Jeremy Soule

5:54 am, October 1, 2013 Hello all, The music that plays in our games is one of the major features that determines our ability to connect ourselves into the world and to relate better with our characters. I decided, with my [..] View

Thoughts on the Temple of Balthazar event

5:37 am, October 1, 2013 I have recently played my last class to level 80 and am now in the process of map completion. Having been to Orr with 5 chars before this one gave me sufficient insight to say this event has never bee [..] View

Dandelion Seeds At the End of the World: My adventure beyond the map.

3:39 am, October 1, 2013 It's funny, I have a friend who is every exploration-oriented, and I'm always teasing her about it. However, today I found myself on an adventure of exploration that will always be a wonderful memory, [..] View

Living Story: What Would You Like to See

1:32 am, October 1, 2013 I'm at work and I wanted to get this out quick so I apologize if its been brought up elsewhere. Redirect if it has. I quit playing GW2 for about 4 or 5 months, only really popping in to play the sup [..] View

Mad King Tower - Bug

12:00 am, October 1, 2013 If you are on top (the stairs infront the clock) you are immune to that green stuff...you can stay there and dance or even climb the tower down. And if you jump down and die because of the falldmg you [..] View

should anet made guild wars utopia + 3-4 xpacs instead of gw2

11:38 pm, September 30, 2013 after playing gw2 for a while i dont see what they added that couldnt been patched into gw1 let me explain my view gw2 is based on gw1 engine so there for it could have been modified so alow jumping [..] View

It's not grind

11:29 pm, September 30, 2013 I saw something in a thread recently. It was about the living story content, and it went something like this: QuoteQuoteIt wasn't so bad at first, but once you fall behind a bit and the content goes a [..] View

GW2 endgame = jump puzzles and mini dungeons.

11:13 pm, September 30, 2013 Seriously I think a lot of people have grinded out to 80, finished story and run the dungeons for their gear and think that's all there is to it but have hardly checked out the JP's and mini dungeons [..] View

Jumping puzzles in GW2 - a guide & discussion

11:03 pm, September 30, 2013 Hey everyone, I recently completed all 37 jumping puzzles (those with achievements) and I thought I would share my experiences of them with the GW2guru community as well as providing guides for each i [..] View

My Beefs w/ GW2 & ArenaNet

10:47 pm, September 30, 2013 Please let me preface this with: If you are still enjoying GW2 and/or happy with ArenaNet, that's fine and I'm happy for you. --- Some of you may recognize me (mainly for my math posts) if you freq [..] View

Eternal Battlegrounds Jump Puzzle in 4:54

9:09 pm, September 30, 2013 This video took a very long time to make but I am happy with the result. If the griefers weren't there in the beginning the run would have been even faster. Select scenes with commentary0:15 - Deali [..] View

Don't flame negative predictions/discussion of GW2 so quickly

9:02 pm, September 30, 2013 The title is such b/c I thought it less argumentative than "my victory lap over the GW2 community". I was basically right about all my predictions for GW2 widely derided as "trolling&qu [..] View

Forging Your Precursor

8:45 pm, September 30, 2013 Over on the official forums, the mystic forge is affectionately known as the mystic toilet. And why shouldn't it be? Especially when you have players throwing 350g worth of weapons in at a time and ge [..] View

The Bazaar of the Four Winds Begins Today!

8:04 pm, September 30, 2013 LIVING WORLD Bazaar of the Four Winds The Bazaar of the Four Winds is gathering; merchants are converging from all corners of Tyria to sell their wares. Its not just shady characters and risky trade [..] View

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